The Real Face Behind Mister Never Give Up and Hatikvah – Alain Horoit. Hear the truth about Alain Horoit who calls himself Mr Never Give Up and Hatikvah. He owes money to many people refusing to pay them back. Now he sells himself as Mr Never Give Up and pro Israel activist as creator of Hatikvah – BEWARE of this person
Wednesday, May 1, 2013
MISTER NEVER GIVE BACK THINKING AND THINKING
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Subject: | RE: is there hope |
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Date: | Tue, 7 Dec 2010 10:53:53 +0000 |
From: | Shalom From Hatikvah <hatikvah1@hotmail.com> |
To: | <alinkap@mail.ru> |
I am always paranoiac. I must see to believe, and always think what's the catch behind it.
I am thinking and thinking what they are up to, but so far everything is cleverly constructed, payments were done to guarantee business transactions with the suppliers and they know that I can just call the bank to see if any transaction was made without my knowledge.
So that whole thing seem very serious and I give it a try. The moment I see they take me as a fool, will be the moment I will intervene.
I had 2 bankruptcies, I had a few companies and busines myself. I know what they can do, where they can lie, and where any excuses stop.
So either they play open card, either I will notice very soon if something is wrong.
But so far, everything seem ok and it deserves a chance
They cannot wear the two hats with me.
Either they are smart and this time, NO MORE DELAY permitted. Either they play the dummies to explain a further delay, and then we quit, because we don't work with dummies. But they can not play dummies and pretend to be smart at the same time. I will not buy this.
So, yes, I am still hopful and am watching it closely without being naive.
Mr NEVER GIVE BACK STEALS A LOGO
http://www.z24.nl/bedrijven/detail_groothandel/artikel_1869.z24/Bikkembergs_boos_op_jumpers_.html
Within two weeks the controversial T-shirts from the market. The shirt is a male jumpend to see around it stands in a circle that says “Jumping is not a crime.” The logo Bikkembergs is a footballer kicks a ball, surrounded by the text ‘Bikkembergs.
Alain Horoit has designed the logo and legally registered. He owns IMP music, one of the big names in the jumscene. He denies that the old logo a parody of that Bikkembergs is: “It’s a jumper dancing in a circle of letters. The similarity with Bikkembergs clothing is entirely coincidental. Then you can print all the dolls in circles or to prohibit.”
According to Dieter Geernaert , lawyer Bikkembergs, harms the image of the jumper Bikkembergs: “Bikkembergs is an exclusive brand. Association with something ordinal airs as jumping, touch the image to. should therefore be removed from the market.”
Horoit has changed its logo without complaint, despite his belief that his logo is not a copy. The new logo is now a jumper dancing in a circle full of words.Bikkembergs agrees with the new logo.”When the lawyer Bikkembergs approached us, we have advised. We have no lawyer was retained. I did not want a lawsuit. Better a little less good system, a process whose outcome is uncertain.”
The T-shirts that IMP makes his merchandise for the record. Under the brand name “Jumping is not a crime” are also produced CDs and festivals. Of the official T-shirts with the old logo, there are only a few hundred were sold. Now they are on the website no longer for sale.
Due to the popularity of the jump and the CDs, the “Jumping is not a crime ‘T-Shirts massively copied. On the internet many websites to find that the T-shirts with logo are sold.
Until recently Horoit was powerless against these illegal copies: “Then I approached gastje such a site and asked him to stop feeding my logo. Then I was told that they were not my logo, but by Bikkembergs had imitated and they asked me if I had a deal with Bikkembergs. Well, I have now. “
Horoit want with Bikkembergs took action against these sites, but an agreement on a joint action, they have not yet reached. Also Bikkembergs says act now want to come to these smaller parties, but will in the context of the current case is not too lose.Geernaert: “I’m not going to give up strategy, but what I can say is that we will make this party in default. Halen their trade or not the Internet, they are taken to court.”
“It’s a jumper dancing in a circle of letters. The similarity with Bikkembergs clothing is entirely coincidental.” [Alain Horoit, designer of the forbidden logo]
Google translation:
Under the brand name “Jumping is not a crime ‘ impMUSIC produces CDs, t-shirts and celebrations. Owner Alain Horoit made there a self made logo. This is designed with a jumping doll in the text “Jumping is not a crime” which is a parody of the famous Bikkembergs logo. Alain Horoit denies it. But the clothing manufacturer thinks differently about it. Bikkembergs demanded that the shirts with the logo be removed from the market because it would harm the image of Bikkembergs.. Bikkembergs threatened to file a lawsuit to prevent the logo from spreading. Several sites still sell pirated copies of the shirts with the prohibited logo – according to Z24 report (FD and RTL).
Well I’m starting to wonder if I should show the banned logo here …
Well I’m starting to wonder if I should show the banned logo here …
HE WILL CHOOSE YOU
He will choose you, disarm you with his words, and control you with his presence. He will delight you with his wit and his plans. He will show you a good time but you will always get the bill. He will smile and deceive you and he will scare you with his eyes. And when he is through with you, and he will be through with you, he will desert you and take with him your innocence and your pride.
You will be left much sadder and not a lot wiser and for a long time you will wonder what happened and what you did wrong. And if another of his kind comes knocking on your door, will you open it?
You will be left much sadder and not a lot wiser and for a long time you will wonder what happened and what you did wrong. And if another of his kind comes knocking on your door, will you open it?
Quoted from Robert D. Hare “Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of Psychopaths Among Us”
OPEN LETTER TO LAWYERS
OPEN LETTER TO LAWYERS
April 25, 2013 § Leave a Comment
http://www.lovefraud.com/2013/04/22/open-letter-lawyers-clients-involved-sociopaths/
An open letter to lawyers who have clients involved with sociopaths
Dear Mr. or Ms. Esquire,
When a client tells you his or her opponent is a sociopath, please be aware of the ramifications for your legal case.
First of all, do not disregard the statement just because the opponent hasn’t killed anyone. A common perception is that sociopaths are all deranged serial killers. This is not true—only a small percentage of sociopaths commit murder. But all sociopaths are social predators, and live by exploiting others.
Frequently this is financial exploitation—many sociopaths are skilled con artists—but not always. Sociopaths also target people who can provide them with a place to live, business connections, sex, housekeeping or other support services, children, or a respectable image in the community while they live double lives. The point is that sociopaths intentionally use manipulation and deceit to hook their target. They continue the manipulation and deceit to keep the exploitation going, bleeding the target until there is nothing left. At that point, some sociopaths abandon the target, moving on without a backward glance.
Sometimes, however, the target gets wise to the sociopath, and wants to end the involvement. At this point, some sociopaths become enraged at the possibility of losing control, and set out to crush the target. They are not interested in compromise or equitable distribution. They do not want to give the target whatever he or she is entitled to. They want to grind the target into the dirt.
When a client tells you his or her opponent is a sociopath, please be aware of the ramifications for your legal case.
First of all, do not disregard the statement just because the opponent hasn’t killed anyone. A common perception is that sociopaths are all deranged serial killers. This is not true—only a small percentage of sociopaths commit murder. But all sociopaths are social predators, and live by exploiting others.
Frequently this is financial exploitation—many sociopaths are skilled con artists—but not always. Sociopaths also target people who can provide them with a place to live, business connections, sex, housekeeping or other support services, children, or a respectable image in the community while they live double lives. The point is that sociopaths intentionally use manipulation and deceit to hook their target. They continue the manipulation and deceit to keep the exploitation going, bleeding the target until there is nothing left. At that point, some sociopaths abandon the target, moving on without a backward glance.
Sometimes, however, the target gets wise to the sociopath, and wants to end the involvement. At this point, some sociopaths become enraged at the possibility of losing control, and set out to crush the target. They are not interested in compromise or equitable distribution. They do not want to give the target whatever he or she is entitled to. They want to grind the target into the dirt.
What you need to understand about sociopaths
1. A sociopath’s prime objective is power and control. All they want is to win.
2. Sociopaths love the drama of court because it gives them an opportunity to win. They do not consider the possibility that they may lose. If they do lose, they view it a bump in the road, and figure out how to attack the target again. Forcing the target to incur steadily mounting legal expenses is considered a win.
3. Sociopaths lie. They lie convincingly. They have no qualms about lying in court documents or on the witness stand.
4. Sociopaths manipulate other people to lie for them. These witnesses may not know they are lying—they may simply believe everything that the sociopath has told them, because sociopaths are so convincing.
5. Sociopaths feel no obligation to follow court orders or the law. They only follow court orders or the law if they perceive an advantage in doing so. But they are experts at figuring out ways to use the law to further their objective, which is to crush your client.
2. Sociopaths love the drama of court because it gives them an opportunity to win. They do not consider the possibility that they may lose. If they do lose, they view it a bump in the road, and figure out how to attack the target again. Forcing the target to incur steadily mounting legal expenses is considered a win.
3. Sociopaths lie. They lie convincingly. They have no qualms about lying in court documents or on the witness stand.
4. Sociopaths manipulate other people to lie for them. These witnesses may not know they are lying—they may simply believe everything that the sociopath has told them, because sociopaths are so convincing.
5. Sociopaths feel no obligation to follow court orders or the law. They only follow court orders or the law if they perceive an advantage in doing so. But they are experts at figuring out ways to use the law to further their objective, which is to crush your client.
How people become targets
Most of us believe that people are basically good inside and everybody just wants to be loved. Because we do not know that there are exceptions to these beliefs—namely, sociopaths—we have huge blind spots that these predators can exploit.
No normal person intentionally becomes involved with a lying, manipulative sociopath. So when your client tells you outrageous stories of the sociopath’s behavior, and also says he or she never knew about the behavior, or accepted the sociopath’s explanations, your client is most likely telling the truth.
How do these entanglements happen? Sociopaths are always on the lookout for people they can use. When they encounter someone through any social interaction, they quickly evaluate whether that person has something that they want. If the answer is yes, they assess the person for vulnerabilities. Then they figure out how to exploit the person’s vulnerabilities to achieve their objective.
Sociopaths engage in calculated seduction. If you’re handling a divorce case, the seduction was romantic. If it’s some other type of case, the seduction may have involved shared beliefs, aspirations or goals. Either way, in the beginning of the involvement the target is subject to a wonderful honeymoon of admiration and promise.
Once the target is hooked, the sociopath begins the exploitation, while simultaneously ramping up manipulation to keep the target under control. This may involve:
No normal person intentionally becomes involved with a lying, manipulative sociopath. So when your client tells you outrageous stories of the sociopath’s behavior, and also says he or she never knew about the behavior, or accepted the sociopath’s explanations, your client is most likely telling the truth.
How do these entanglements happen? Sociopaths are always on the lookout for people they can use. When they encounter someone through any social interaction, they quickly evaluate whether that person has something that they want. If the answer is yes, they assess the person for vulnerabilities. Then they figure out how to exploit the person’s vulnerabilities to achieve their objective.
Sociopaths engage in calculated seduction. If you’re handling a divorce case, the seduction was romantic. If it’s some other type of case, the seduction may have involved shared beliefs, aspirations or goals. Either way, in the beginning of the involvement the target is subject to a wonderful honeymoon of admiration and promise.
Once the target is hooked, the sociopath begins the exploitation, while simultaneously ramping up manipulation to keep the target under control. This may involve:
- Isolating the target from his or her support network
- Emotional, psychological, verbal, physical, sexual or financial abuse
- Gaslighting—making the target doubt his or her own perceptions
What you need to understand about the target
1. Involvement with a sociopath is like living in a black hole of chaos. Your client, the target, has probably had every aspect of his or her life disrupted:
- Career interrupted
- Finances ruined
- Health compromised
- Home and property neglected
- Relationships shattered
By the time the legal action commenced, your client may have already been in free fall for a long time. He or she may feel overwhelmed by the magnitude of the issues that need to be addressed.
2. Involvement with a sociopath can cause post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). At one time PTSD was diagnosed only in relation to a single traumatic event that involved risk of serious injury or death, coupled with intense fear, horror or helplessness. A new definition identifies a type of PTSD that results from cumulative trauma and long-term injury.
3. PTSD is a psychiatric injury (not a mental illness). PTSD causes biochemical changes in the brain and affects certain areas of the brain’s anatomy. Common symptoms include intrusive thoughts, nightmares, flashbacks, difficulty concentrating and exhaustion.
4. The litigation against the sociopath makes your client re-experience the underlying trauma and triggers the symptoms of PTSD. Dr. Karin Huffer, in her book Unlocking Justice, explains what happens:
2. Involvement with a sociopath can cause post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). At one time PTSD was diagnosed only in relation to a single traumatic event that involved risk of serious injury or death, coupled with intense fear, horror or helplessness. A new definition identifies a type of PTSD that results from cumulative trauma and long-term injury.
3. PTSD is a psychiatric injury (not a mental illness). PTSD causes biochemical changes in the brain and affects certain areas of the brain’s anatomy. Common symptoms include intrusive thoughts, nightmares, flashbacks, difficulty concentrating and exhaustion.
4. The litigation against the sociopath makes your client re-experience the underlying trauma and triggers the symptoms of PTSD. Dr. Karin Huffer, in her book Unlocking Justice, explains what happens:
Mentally reliving the trauma during legal proceedings simultaneously activates parts of the brain that support intense emotions while diminishing the functions of the central nervous system that controls motor output, regulates physiological arousal, and impedes the ability to communicate in words. Memory fails and intrusive emotions sabotage concentration on the task at hand. Litigants feel incapable of the spontaneous verbal response and interaction required in typical courtroom exchanges. As a result, the litigant with PTSD might be driven to avoid topics. They literally do not hear them. They disconnect when they need to engage. And, at times, they clearly are nonfunctional and are unable to communicate their symptoms and needs in a formal manner accepted by the courts.
5. Targets of sociopaths have been deceived, betrayed and perhaps subject to violence. They approach the courts expecting justice, which sociopaths actively thwart. When justice is denied, and targets instead experience profound and prolonged injustice, their PTSD takes on another dimension, which Huffer identifies as “Legal Abuse Syndrome.”
Your client’s experience
The goal of this letter, Mr. or Ms. Esquire, is to help you understand what your client has experienced. My objective is to explain why he or she may be having difficulties with the litigation process, and difficulties moving on in life. The sociopath intentionally used your client—perhaps for years—and may be intentionally attempting to destroy him or her now.
Your client is not irrational, lazy or obstinate. Your client is having a normal reaction to profound betrayal.
Sincerely,
Donna Andersen
Author, Lovefraud.com, and a former litigant against a sociopath
Your client is not irrational, lazy or obstinate. Your client is having a normal reaction to profound betrayal.
Sincerely,
Donna Andersen
Author, Lovefraud.com, and a former litigant against a sociopath
BEWARE THE FRAUD SPREAD THE TRUTH
LEGAL ABUSE SYNDROME
LEGAL ABUSE SYNDROME
April 25, 2013 § Leave a Comment
http://www.lovefraud.com/2008/03/31/book-review-legal-abuse-syndrome/
Victims are created in two ways: by violence or by deceit. Either type of assault immediately renders the victim hostage to the perpetrator.”
So begins the book Legal Abuse Syndrome, by Karin Huffer, MS, MFT. Lovefraud strongly recommends that anyone who has been victimized by a sociopath read this book, whether you have faced your perpetrator in court or not.
The book explains how people who have suffered injury at the hands of some type of predator often face further injury inflicted by lawyers and the courts, who can be, at best, disinterested, and at worst, corrupt. Legal Abuse Syndrome, Huffer says, is a form of post traumatic stress disorder caused by prolonged contact with the so-called “justice” system.
Along the way, however, the author answers many of the questions that those of us victimized by sociopaths have asked:
If I am the victim, why do I feel guilty?
Why can’t I share my devastation with my family and friends?
How can I recover from this assault?
Conscience-centered and power-centered
Huffer does not call the perpetrators of assault, and the complicit people in the legal bureaucracy, sociopaths or psychopaths. Rather, she describes everyone as fitting somewhere on a continuum of motivation between “conscience-centered” and “power-centered.” The extreme power-centered individuals, however, are clearly sociopaths.
So begins the book Legal Abuse Syndrome, by Karin Huffer, MS, MFT. Lovefraud strongly recommends that anyone who has been victimized by a sociopath read this book, whether you have faced your perpetrator in court or not.
The book explains how people who have suffered injury at the hands of some type of predator often face further injury inflicted by lawyers and the courts, who can be, at best, disinterested, and at worst, corrupt. Legal Abuse Syndrome, Huffer says, is a form of post traumatic stress disorder caused by prolonged contact with the so-called “justice” system.
Along the way, however, the author answers many of the questions that those of us victimized by sociopaths have asked:
If I am the victim, why do I feel guilty?
Why can’t I share my devastation with my family and friends?
How can I recover from this assault?
Conscience-centered and power-centered
Huffer does not call the perpetrators of assault, and the complicit people in the legal bureaucracy, sociopaths or psychopaths. Rather, she describes everyone as fitting somewhere on a continuum of motivation between “conscience-centered” and “power-centered.” The extreme power-centered individuals, however, are clearly sociopaths.
Huffer writes:
Trust has usually left the conscience-centered vulnerable. If deception is to work, there have to be those who trust. Convergence of power-centered and conscience-centered people, in their purest forms, will inevitably result in the conscience-centered person being victimized. It is a marriage of deathly complementary value systems upon which the power-centered thrive. They literally tend a garden of trusting relationships while perpetrating hidden agendas.
Those who value truth, honesty, and a moral and ethical code make up the majority of people. These masses are the conscience-centered who collide head-on against a slick minority of individuals, the power-centered. PC’s pull out the “big guns” of moral turpitude for power motives, regardless of damage to others or society.
Of course, everyone on Lovefraud knows exactly what the author is talking about.
Eight steps to recovery
Even more important than describing the experience of the victim—”the kidnapping of the soul”—Karin Huffer offers a path to recovery.
Trust has usually left the conscience-centered vulnerable. If deception is to work, there have to be those who trust. Convergence of power-centered and conscience-centered people, in their purest forms, will inevitably result in the conscience-centered person being victimized. It is a marriage of deathly complementary value systems upon which the power-centered thrive. They literally tend a garden of trusting relationships while perpetrating hidden agendas.
Those who value truth, honesty, and a moral and ethical code make up the majority of people. These masses are the conscience-centered who collide head-on against a slick minority of individuals, the power-centered. PC’s pull out the “big guns” of moral turpitude for power motives, regardless of damage to others or society.
Of course, everyone on Lovefraud knows exactly what the author is talking about.
Eight steps to recovery
Even more important than describing the experience of the victim—”the kidnapping of the soul”—Karin Huffer offers a path to recovery.
- Debriefing: Writing down, in a particular format, exactly what happened.
- Grieving: A natural and healing reaction to the most profound loss—a loss of trust.
- Obsession: Figuring out what happened occupies a victim’s life.
- Blaming: Guilt, rage, anger and wrong need to be directed at the offender.
- Deshaming: Victims must get rid of inappropriate shame.
- Reframing: Reframe the experience with insights that empower and affirm the self.
- Empowerment: Taking ownership of the ravaged experience.
- Recovery: Emerging from victim as a veteran, with honed wisdom, courage and tools.
Huffer’s point is that it is possible to recover from the destruction inflicted by power-centered individuals, i.e., sociopaths, and grow as an individual. It is a message of hope.
Overcoming devastation
This book’s full title is Overcoming the Devastation of Legal Abuse Syndrome. It provides case studies of people who have been defrauded by criminals, lawyers and judges, often operating in cahoots. Only one case involved a typical Lovefraud story—a deceptive husband trying to cut his wife out of the marital assets. And it does offer advice for people who are in litigation with predators.
But I think the book could be called Overcoming the Devastation of a Sociopath.From cover to cover, it is filled with insight into what we have experienced, and how to come to terms with it. It is invaluable help for anyone who, after gross deception and injustice, trying to recover a sense of self.
Overcoming devastation
This book’s full title is Overcoming the Devastation of Legal Abuse Syndrome. It provides case studies of people who have been defrauded by criminals, lawyers and judges, often operating in cahoots. Only one case involved a typical Lovefraud story—a deceptive husband trying to cut his wife out of the marital assets. And it does offer advice for people who are in litigation with predators.
But I think the book could be called Overcoming the Devastation of a Sociopath.From cover to cover, it is filled with insight into what we have experienced, and how to come to terms with it. It is invaluable help for anyone who, after gross deception and injustice, trying to recover a sense of self.
By Donna Andersen March 31, 2008
MISTER NEVER GIVE UP’S TO NEVER GIVE BACK Are Often Really Really Good Looking
MISTER NEVER GIVE UP’S TO NEVER GIVE BACK Are Often Really Really Good Looking
People who have known sociopaths have said numerous times that there is often something very attractive about them, be it physically or charismatically, and it has psychiatrists confused. People do tend to trust and follow better looking people more than they do ugly people, so there’s that…
MISTER NEVER GIVE UP’S THINK THEY CAN “RULE THE WORLD”
MISTER NEVER GIVE UP’S THINK THEY CAN “RULE THE WORLD”
Many sociopaths harbor delusions of grandeur and believe that it’s probable that they can, in fact, one day rule the world. That is why so many sociopaths believe that nobody will ever be able to find them out.
SOCIOPATHS GET AWAY WITH WHAT THEY DO
Many sociopaths are not antisocial people. A lot of them are super friendly, charming, and know how to work a crowd. This allows them to get away with whatever they want, since nobody will ever suspect the great guy in the room.
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