JINAC - Jumping is not a Crime - another lost business of Alain Horoit.
He is convincing me for an appointment with my boss so he can ask him for a loan.
01.09.2009
20:02:51
jinac
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do u have a good relation with your boss?
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the russian jew?
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I guess
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jinac
I have just met him
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but he is a client of a friend
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why?
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and who's that friend?
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jinac
his name is Nisim
he is in tourism
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because i need to get in touch with influential people. I do good things, great things, but again all alone. I need to talk to people who possibly see some opportunities in what i can offer
20:06:00
jinac
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talking to people is already a first step
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jinac
do you want to talk to him on telephone or come to Germany when he is here next time? 01.09.2009
20:06:38
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jinac
I don't know how good his English is 01.09.2009
20:07:26
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jinac
I'll see him on Thursday
20:07:48
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jinac
how would you like to do it?
email phone or in person?
20:09:45
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jinac
are you there? 01.09.2009
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jinac
I also have a Jewish friend in Kiev who helps the community
his company has had some problems due to crisis
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but I think he would be interested in promoting a Jewish cause
20:10:48
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anything can do 01.09.2009
20:10:52
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jinac
he is a really good and close friend for many years
20:10:59
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i don't need fortunes and i can give 12%
20:11:35
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I know that my events are great and based upon turnovers of 200.000e
20:12:11
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so if someone is interested, he can start slowly to see I'm serious, to see that he gets his money + profits in return and then we can go on
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jinac
maybe you could write me a letter to translate into Russian
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don't you know anyone living in Germany? 01.09.2009
20:13:18
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jinac
with serious money I know only in Russia and my boss who is a billionaire but not Jewish 01.09.2009
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:) 01.09.2009
20:13:34
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sums going from 10.000 are not a lot for these people. It was a joke for me also some months ago 01.09.2009
20:14:13
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If i speak to a billionaire, then i certainly cannot come with 10000. :) 01.09.2009
20:14:28
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jinac
when you see me you should make a briefing for me so that I know what to talk about 01.09.2009
20:14:39
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how close are you with your billionaire boss?
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jinac
in Kiev we got to talk more - because I was being his personal assistant
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and he trusts me to look for an Ukrainian bride for him :)
20:16:30
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jinac
he said when he studied in the States he was always taken for a Jew
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jinac
with his last name
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and his mom is American half Vietnamese half Chinese 01.09.2009
20:16:55
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jinac
so he looks vaguely Oriental 01.09.2009
20:17:28
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jinac
he said I would continue working for him even if I moved to Antwerp :) 01.09.2009
20:18:01
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jinac
do you think I should talk to him? 01.09.2009
20:18:24
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jinac
or maybe it is better that you talk to him yourself as my friend 01.09.2009
20:18:58
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jinac
it just depends if he is having a good or a bad day because his moods change every so often 01.09.2009
20:20:00
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jinac
he also told me that he hired me because of my looks ;)
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jinac
are you there?
20:21:48
so what should I do? 01.09.2009
20:23:26
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jinac
I think with Robert it would be better if you met him in person
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jinac
Alain are you there?
20:28:33
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wait 10min. my parents
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sure
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ok
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jinac
how are your parents?
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ok
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they came to visit you?
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yes
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so where were we 01.09.2009
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who's robert?
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the very rich boss
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how old is he?
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jinac
his parents and grandparents had corporate housing business
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jinac
he is 38 0r 9
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the thing is that i have two options. I don't need much and i don't want much. So if i speak with him about 10.000 to 30.000, he wouldn't take me seriously. But this is what i need and not more.
20:52:44
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because normally someone will come to speak about 100.000 or more, but this is not what i need
20:53:16
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jinac
so speak to him of what you need
20:53:50
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jinac
I can ask him tomorrow when he has time to meet with you
20:53:51
jinac
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but then he won't take me seriously, cause no investors need that kind of "low" money
jinac
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so i'd need to come and ask 60.000 to make myself serious
jinac
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if someone came to me a few months ago for 5000 euro, i wouldn't take him seriously as well 01.09.2009
20:55:08
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jinac
do what you think is wise
20:55:34
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jinac
I can tell him that my friend would like to meet with him
20:55:42
jinac
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i know how people think. Go to the bank and ask for 100 euro, they won't give it to you. Ask them 50.000, they may consider it
jinac
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when could he meet me?
20:56:16
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jinac
I have to talk to him
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is he in germany?
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jinac
yes in Frankfurt
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jinac
this one - the non-Jewish boss
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jinac
the other is going to Russia
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jinac
and comes back end of the month
20:57:02
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jinac
this Isaak
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but with him I think all decision making is with his daddy
20:57:34
jinac
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then i prefer to talk to robert
20:57:39
jinac
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i need decision makers
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jinac
like me :)?
20:58:19
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jinac
OK, so I am going to talk to him tomorrow
20:59:29
jinac
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ok, but let me space to do the talking there
20:59:46
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jinac
you'll meet him alone but I will have to introduce you as my boyfriend
20:59:54
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jinac
is it OK for you?
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jinac
I had already told him about you
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such as?
21:01:27
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jinac
that I like a guy from Antwerp
21:01:42
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anyway? i got also a product that may interest him
21:02:02
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something that he can make himself a lot of money with
jinac
He is convincing me for an appointment with my boss so he can ask him for a loan.
01.09.2009
20:02:51
jinac
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do u have a good relation with your boss?
20:02:56
jinac
Aline
the russian jew?
20:03:01
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jinac
I guess
20:03:06
Aline
jinac
I have just met him
20:03:23
Aline
jinac
but he is a client of a friend
20:03:27
Aline
jinac
why?
20:03:39
jinac
Aline
and who's that friend?
20:03:47
Aline
jinac
his name is Nisim
he is in tourism
20:05:24
jinac
Aline
because i need to get in touch with influential people. I do good things, great things, but again all alone. I need to talk to people who possibly see some opportunities in what i can offer
20:06:00
jinac
Aline
talking to people is already a first step
Aline
jinac
do you want to talk to him on telephone or come to Germany when he is here next time? 01.09.2009
20:06:38
Aline
jinac
I don't know how good his English is 01.09.2009
20:07:26
Aline
jinac
I'll see him on Thursday
20:07:48
Aline
jinac
how would you like to do it?
email phone or in person?
20:09:45
Aline
jinac
are you there? 01.09.2009
20:10:02
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jinac
I also have a Jewish friend in Kiev who helps the community
his company has had some problems due to crisis
Aline
jinac
but I think he would be interested in promoting a Jewish cause
20:10:48
jinac
Aline
anything can do 01.09.2009
20:10:52
Aline
jinac
he is a really good and close friend for many years
20:10:59
jinac
Aline
i don't need fortunes and i can give 12%
20:11:35
jinac
Aline
I know that my events are great and based upon turnovers of 200.000e
20:12:11
jinac
Aline
so if someone is interested, he can start slowly to see I'm serious, to see that he gets his money + profits in return and then we can go on
Aline
jinac
maybe you could write me a letter to translate into Russian
jinac
Aline
don't you know anyone living in Germany? 01.09.2009
20:13:18
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jinac
with serious money I know only in Russia and my boss who is a billionaire but not Jewish 01.09.2009
20:13:21
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jinac
:) 01.09.2009
20:13:34
jinac
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sums going from 10.000 are not a lot for these people. It was a joke for me also some months ago 01.09.2009
20:14:13
jinac
Aline
If i speak to a billionaire, then i certainly cannot come with 10000. :) 01.09.2009
20:14:28
Aline
jinac
when you see me you should make a briefing for me so that I know what to talk about 01.09.2009
20:14:39
jinac
Aline
how close are you with your billionaire boss?
20:15:34
Aline
jinac
in Kiev we got to talk more - because I was being his personal assistant
20:16:08
Aline
jinac
and he trusts me to look for an Ukrainian bride for him :)
20:16:30
Aline
jinac
he said when he studied in the States he was always taken for a Jew
20:16:35
Aline
jinac
with his last name
20:16:45
Aline
jinac
and his mom is American half Vietnamese half Chinese 01.09.2009
20:16:55
Aline
jinac
so he looks vaguely Oriental 01.09.2009
20:17:28
Aline
jinac
he said I would continue working for him even if I moved to Antwerp :) 01.09.2009
20:18:01
Aline
jinac
do you think I should talk to him? 01.09.2009
20:18:24
Aline
jinac
or maybe it is better that you talk to him yourself as my friend 01.09.2009
20:18:58
Aline
jinac
it just depends if he is having a good or a bad day because his moods change every so often 01.09.2009
20:20:00
Aline
jinac
he also told me that he hired me because of my looks ;)
20:20:53
Aline
jinac
are you there?
20:21:48
so what should I do? 01.09.2009
20:23:26
Aline
jinac
I think with Robert it would be better if you met him in person
20:25:02
Aline
jinac
Alain are you there?
20:28:33
jinac
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wait 10min. my parents
20:28:53
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jinac
sure
jinac
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ok
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jinac
how are your parents?
20:49:54
jinac
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ok
Aline
jinac
they came to visit you?
20:50:05
jinac
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yes
Aline
jinac
so where were we 01.09.2009
20:50:35
jinac
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who's robert?
20:50:41
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jinac
the very rich boss
20:50:51
jinac
Aline
how old is he?
20:50:56
Aline
jinac
his parents and grandparents had corporate housing business
20:51:06
Aline
jinac
he is 38 0r 9
20:52:12
jinac
Aline
the thing is that i have two options. I don't need much and i don't want much. So if i speak with him about 10.000 to 30.000, he wouldn't take me seriously. But this is what i need and not more.
20:52:44
jinac
Aline
because normally someone will come to speak about 100.000 or more, but this is not what i need
20:53:16
Aline
jinac
so speak to him of what you need
20:53:50
Aline
jinac
I can ask him tomorrow when he has time to meet with you
20:53:51
jinac
Aline
but then he won't take me seriously, cause no investors need that kind of "low" money
jinac
Aline
so i'd need to come and ask 60.000 to make myself serious
jinac
Aline
if someone came to me a few months ago for 5000 euro, i wouldn't take him seriously as well 01.09.2009
20:55:08
Aline
jinac
do what you think is wise
20:55:34
Aline
jinac
I can tell him that my friend would like to meet with him
20:55:42
jinac
Aline
i know how people think. Go to the bank and ask for 100 euro, they won't give it to you. Ask them 50.000, they may consider it
jinac
Aline
when could he meet me?
20:56:16
Aline
jinac
I have to talk to him
20:56:23
jinac
Aline
is he in germany?
20:56:27
Aline
jinac
yes in Frankfurt
Aline
jinac
this one - the non-Jewish boss
20:56:50
Aline
jinac
the other is going to Russia
20:56:57
Aline
jinac
and comes back end of the month
20:57:02
Aline
jinac
this Isaak
Aline
jinac
but with him I think all decision making is with his daddy
20:57:34
jinac
Aline
then i prefer to talk to robert
20:57:39
jinac
Aline
i need decision makers
20:57:46
Aline
jinac
like me :)?
20:58:19
Aline
jinac
OK, so I am going to talk to him tomorrow
20:59:29
jinac
Aline
ok, but let me space to do the talking there
20:59:46
Aline
jinac
you'll meet him alone but I will have to introduce you as my boyfriend
20:59:54
Aline
jinac
is it OK for you?
21:00:25
Aline
jinac
I had already told him about you
21:01:17
jinac
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such as?
21:01:27
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jinac
that I like a guy from Antwerp
21:01:42
jinac
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anyway? i got also a product that may interest him
21:02:02
jinac
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something that he can make himself a lot of money with
jinac
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