Sunday, February 12, 2012

BREAKING NEWS HATIKVAH TAKEN OVER BY HONEST ADMIN AFTER GEERT WILDERS INTERVENTION

today on my mother's death anniversary Hatikvah has been taken over by honest admin after the book scam revealed by Geert Wilders.



http://www.amazon.co.uk/Everything-About-History-Palestinians-Hatikvah/dp/1467883212/ref=/ref=cm_cd_t_pb_i


I was lighting the yorzeit candle for my mother z'l with a calm in my heart. The Page Hatikvah did Tshuvah on the day of her death - it turned against the scam. I hope and pray that a pro Israeli Page will remain true to its higher purpose thanks to the honesty and high moral standards of its admins. Even though Alain Horoit is the creator of this page I support it in its struggle to support the Jewish Homeland. 


Thank you Miri.


Geert Wilders IFA Friends
GWIFA: We're not sure WHO exactly was "associated with this former scam" - but apparently the page - "HATIKVAH" - has disassociated themselves from that person or people, and the "book" too!

AND ... that is good news!

Hatikvah ... says ...

According to the terms and conditions of the use of facebook, the activity relating to the publication of the book "Everything About the History of the Palestinians" and those affiliated with it have been disassociated with this page.

Hatikvah means "the hope" and is here to offer support for Israel.

We apologize to those who were victim to the former scam that arose and we assure you that we are more dedicated to supporting Israel than ever.

Hatikvah

According to the terms and conditions of the use of facebook, the activity relating to the publication of the book
 "Everything About the History of the Palestinians" and those affiliated with it have been disassociated with this page. Hatikvah means "the hope" and is here to offer support for Israel. We apologize to those who were victim to the former scam that arose and we assure you that we are more dedicated to supporting Israel than ever.

  • Geert Wilders IFA Friends Hatikvah ... says ...

    According to the terms and conditions of the use of facebook, the activity relating to the publication of the book
    "Everything About the History of the Palestinians" and those affiliated with it have been disassociated with this page.

    Hatikvah means "the hope" and is here to offer support for Israel.

    We apologize to those who were victim to the former scam that arose and we assure you that we are more dedicated to supporting
    Israel than ever.
    Yesterday at 8:59pm ·  ·  3

  • Hatikvah Thank you for alerting us about this fraud.
    Yesterday at 9:03pm ·  ·  3

  • Geert Wilders IFA Friends Also to clear up WHO the scammer was (has been removed from Hatikvah now) -
    he is "Mr. Never Give Up" that we noted on this post.

    Please be aware he has been removed from "HATIKVAH" and they are not associated with him or his "book"
    (the scam that we were reporting).

    The Real Face Behind MrNever Give Up and Hatikvah: PLEASE ask Alain Horoit to return my money!
    http://www.facebook.com/GW.IFA/posts/127321100724386

    GWIFA: There is a DESPICABLE SCAMMER in our midst ... even we were SCAMMED here on this page,
    thinking that this person behind "Hatikvah" (Facebook page) was a true believing Jew! Far from it! He's a scammer!



    • Geert Wilders IFA Friends

      GWIFA: This is why we NO LONGER RECOMMEND the Facebook page - "Hatikvah" - even though we used them in the past. They built up their "reputation" as a supporter of Israel in order to PERPETRATE A SCAM on the supporters of Israel (charging $18) and giving them NOTHING in return.

      And when people started finding out and complaining about Hatikvah's scam ... and how people who can barely make "ends meet" and put out maybe their last $18 to get their book ... they replied ...

      "Don't let your emotions overpower your intelligence my friend. There are better and worse books in this world! It's your opinion, but don't make it as it was a fact and don't claim that we are responsible for the misery of these people struggling to make end meets. We find this book controversial, thought provoking and very very concise. That's our opinion. I hope you can live with it."

      SO ... "Hatikvah" finds "300 blank pages" in a book - to be thought-provoking ... eh?! What a bunch of MORONS over there - or rather - "scammers" attempting to do their best to "cover themselves" for this scam!


      Geert Wilders IFA Friends

      My allies are not [France's Jean-Mari] Le Pen or [Austria's Jorg] Haider. We'll never join up with the fascists and Mussolinis of Italy. I'm very afraid of being linked with the wrong rightist fascist groups. -Geert Wilders
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       ·  ·  · Yesterday at 6:55pm · 

        • Geert Wilders IFA Friends Very specifically - this is the SCAM PAGE ... that we're talking about ...
          http://www.facebook.com/Hatikvah1
          Yesterday at 6:56pm ·  ·  1

        • Geert Wilders IFA Friends The Facebook page - HATIKVAH - turns out to be ABSOLUTELY DESPICABLE in their reasoning for perpetrating their scam.

          Apparently to the people over at "Hativah" - the fact that Palestinians lie and make up a false narrative about their "history" - is JUSTIFICATION for Hativkah - to scam the supporters of Israel out of $18 - and feel no remorse and have no pity even on those who are living in meager circumstances and bought their "300 blank pages" of a book.

          They think that's NOT THEIR PROBLEM if someone of meager circumstances bought a "book" unknowingly and got "nothing in return" - thinking that they were going to "get something".

          Hativah thinks it's not "their problem" of those people can't afford to be scammed. That's just "too bad" - in the thinking of Hatikvah - but they make it clear that it's "not their problem"!

          They don't deserve even the name of Jews and don't even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as "Israel" - and are more like the ISLAMISTS in being criminals and fraudsters.

          We don't need ANY SUPPORTERS who are like "Hatikvah" supporting Israel at all.

          I'm sure the ISLAMISTS are laughing their heads off over this one!
          Yesterday at 7:09pm ·  ·  2

        • Josie Em Is the book literally 300 blank pages? If so, why do the Amazon reviews not say this? Last time I checked, there were some positive reviews and some very negative ones, but none said there was nothing in the book at all.
          Yesterday at 7:41pm ·  ·  1

        • Hilary Stein Kay I like the Hatikvah site - but really disappointed that they did this.
          Yesterday at 7:45pm ·  ·  1

        • Geert Wilders IFA Friends ‎Josie ... look at our previous posts ... all in a row before this one. We include some of those Amazon reviews in which they DO SAY that there are 300 blank pages. But, that didn't happen until after a large number of people were scammed out of their money - FIRST!

          We're reporting it now, as we're now finding out - ALTHOUGH - we saw the initial HEAVY PROMOTING by Hatikvah from "day one" of them releasing the book.

          Of course, they did not let anyone know that it was 300 blank pages until - JUST NOW! (since yesterday). And that was because they have now BEEN EXPOSED as SCAMMERS and they're trying to make out like it was "no big deal"!
          Yesterday at 7:46pm ·  ·  1

        • Geert Wilders IFA Friends ‎Hilary ... we will no longer use them, we will not support them any longer and we will recommend that everyone LEAVE their page - and also - report them for criminal activity!
          Yesterday at 7:48pm ·  ·  1

        • Hatikvah Hey, is this an attack on our page without even contacting us and request some facts or answers? You can mail us at hatikvah1@hotmail.com. But this impulsive way of accusing us doesn't show much impartiality. So before posting about us, BE INTERESTED and ask us some facts or answers. Thank you
          Yesterday at 8:29pm · 

        • Geert Wilders IFA Friends Hatikvah ... you've already ADMITTED the basic facts which we find DESPICABLE and CRIMINAL. In the USA, this would be prosecuted as FRAUD. We have followed the so-called "book" from your first announcement of it and we waited to see the reviews before posting anything about it.

          We also know that you DID NOT INFORM people - UP FRONT - that you were "publishing" 300 blank pages. We know that because we've been following your announcements of it from the beginning.

          It would have been different if you had made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR from the beginning announcement of this book - that people were buying 300 blank pages for $18. You didn't.

          There's nothing to ask as that's all that is needed to prosecute for fraud!

          We're recommending that people do contact the authorities and alert them to this FRAUD. We also recommend that people notify Amazon of this FRAUD. And we recommend that people let Facebook know about this FRAUD.
          Yesterday at 8:35pm ·  ·  1

        • Geert Wilders IFA Friends VERY IMPORTANT from HATIKVAH ...
          http://www.facebook.com/GW.IFA/posts/131592183629960

          GWIFA: We're not sure WHO exactly was "associated with this former scam" - but apparently the page - "HATIKVAH" - has disassociated themselves from that person or people, and the "book" too!

          AND ... that is good news!

          Hatikvah ... says ...

          According to the terms and conditions of the use of facebook, the activity relating to the publication of the book "Everything About the History of the Palestinians" and those affiliated with it have been disassociated with this page.

          Hatikvah means "the hope" and is here to offer support for Israel.

          We apologize to those who were victim to the former scam that arose and we assure you that we are more dedicated to supporting Israel than ever.
          Yesterday at 9:01pm ·  ·  2

        • Geert Wilders IFA Friends Also to clear up WHO the scammer was (has been removed from Hatikvah now) - he is "Mr. Never Give Up" that we noted on this post.

          Please be aware he has been removed from "HATIKVAH" and they are not associated with him or his "book" (the scam that we were reporting).

          The Real Face Behind MrNever Give Up and Hatikvah: PLEASE ask Alain Horoit to return my money!
          http://www.facebook.com/GW.IFA/posts/127321100724386

          GWIFA: There is a DESPICABLE SCAMMER in our midst ... even we were SCAMMED here on this page, thinking that this person behind "Hatikvah" (Facebook page) was a true believing Jew! Far from it! He's a scammer!

          --

          NOTE AGAIN ... Hatikvah has now disassociated themselves from this scammer and his "book". Hatikvah has been very responsive and has taken care of the problem!
          Yesterday at 9:42pm ·  ·  2
        • Geert Wilders IFA Friends 
          VERY IMPORTANT from HATIKVAH ...
          http://www.facebook.com/GW.IFA/posts/131592183629960


          GWIFA: We're not sure WHO exactly was "associated with this former scam" - but apparently the page - "HATIKVAH" - has disassociated themselves from that person or people, and the "book" too!

          AND ... that is good news!

          Hatikvah ... says ...

          According to the terms and conditions of the use of facebook, the activity relating to the publication of the book "Everything About the History of the Palestinians" and those affiliated with it have been disassociated with this page.

          Hatikvah means "the hope" and is here to offer support for Israel.

          We apologize to those who were victim to the former scam that arose and we assure you that we are more dedicated to supporting Israel than ever.

          Yesterday at 9:01pm ·  ·  2

        • Geert Wilders IFA Friends 
          Also to clear up WHO the scammer was (has been removed from Hatikvah now) - he is "Mr. Never Give Up" that we noted on this post.


          Please be aware he has been removed from "HATIKVAH" and they are not associated with him or his "book" (the scam that we were reporting).

          The Real Face Behind MrNever Give Up and Hatikvah: PLEASE ask Alain Horoit to return my money!
          http://www.facebook.com/GW.IFA/posts/127321100724386

          GWIFA: There is a DESPICABLE SCAMMER in our midst ... even we were SCAMMED here on this page, thinking that this person behind "Hatikvah" (Facebook page) was a true believing Jew! Far from it! He's a scammer!

          --

          NOTE AGAIN ... Hatikvah has now disassociated themselves from this scammer and his "book". Hatikvah has been very responsive and has taken care of the problem!

          Yesterday at 9:42pm ·  ·  2

          • Geert Wilders IFA Friends
            WARNING! This is a SCAMMER PAGE. They have been heavily promoting a book (300 pages) on the Palestinians (supposedly
            some good documentation and proof) ... and charged people $18 for it ...

            The problem? ... People have only gotten 300 blank pages in return. It's amazing that Amazon is still allowing the book to be sold there.
            It's also amazing that this Facebook page is still PROMOTING this book. The money is simply going into a SCAMMER'S POCKET and
            nowhere else!

            We are BANNING the Facebook page - HATIKVAH - from ever being used here or referenced here or supported here!
            We don't support scammers - because these kind are of the MOST DESPICABLE KIND - even worse than ISLAMISTS.

            You see ... we are "aware" and "on guard" against ISLAMISTS because we know them (already) to be despicable, inhumane, vicious,
             criminals and scammers and liars! SO ... people "are aware" of ISLAMISTS.

            BUT ... the ABSOLUTE WORST SCAMMERS are the ones who pretend to be something good that you support -
            and then they take advantage of that - and scam you. Thus, these guys are WORSE THAN ISLAMISTS!

            See below (on the previous posts) about the information on this book!

            Hatikvah

            As long as the Jewish spirit is yearning deep in the heart, With eyes turned toward the East, looking toward Zion,

            Then our hope - the two-thousand-year-old hope - will not be lost: To be a free people in our land, The land of Zion and Jerusalem.
             Kol ode balevav P'nimah - Nefesh Yehudi homiyah Ulfa'atey mizrach kadimah Ayin l'tzion tzofiyah.
            Ode lo avdah tikvatenu Hatikvah bat shnot alpayim: L'hiyot am chofshi b'artzenu - Eretz Tzion v'Yerushalayim
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             ·  ·  · Yesterday at 5:36pm · 

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              • Rose Mompie Good.
                Yesterday at 9:11pm ·  ·  1

              • Geert Wilders IFA Friends 
                Also to clear up WHO the scammer was (has been removed from Hatikvah now) - he is "Mr. Never Give Up" that we noted on this post.


                Please be aware he has been removed from "HATIKVAH" and they are not associated with him or his "book" (the s...See More

                Yesterday at 9:43pm ·  ·  2


          • Geert Wilders IFA Friends
            GWIFA: There is a DESPICABLE SCAMMER in our midst ... even we were SCAMMED here on this page, thinking that this person
            behind "Hatikvah" (Facebook page) was a true believing Jew! Far from it! He's a scammer!

            THEREFORE ... we're banning anything from "HATIKVAH" here on this page (i.e., the Facebook page and the person behind it) -
             
            and will no longer use their references here.

            We're also calling on people to LEAVE the HATIKVAH PAGE (on Facebook) because why should we support such a SCAMMER as this?!

            The Real Face Behind MrNever Give Up and Hatikvah: PLEASE ask Alain Horoit to return my money!
            mrnevergiveup.blogspot.com

             ·  ·  · Yesterday at 5:10pm · 

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              • Geert Wilders IFA Friends ‎Alina Polyak ... we have a SIDEBAR for some documentation and referencing for things like this ...
                so please do go to our SIDEBAR where we can discuss this and go into it in more detail. We will probably have some questions and
                need to clarify some things, so we'll be anxious to talk to you over there.
                http://www.facebook.com/geert.wilders.sidebar
                19 hours ago · 

              • Geert Wilders IFA Friends 
                ‎Martin Ashton ... as we noted in another post of yours, we have a SIDEBAR where we have admins going over any
                documentation and referencing that people have for any kind of story that we post here. And ... for this we would certainly like ...
                See More

                19 hours ago · 
                 · 

              • Alina Polyak Miriam Young Thank you. I'm so sorry you went through all of this.
                I kicked Alain off from Hatikvah and it will once more promote peace and love for Israel.
                 Hopefully his book hasn't completely ruined something beautiful. This page will only support the TRUTH.
                3 hours ago · Unlike · 1
                20 hours ago · 

              • Alina Polyak So the answer is - I do NOT know
                20 hours ago · 



              • Geert Wilders Sidebar Yes ... Alina ... we see the statements that "Hatikvah" has made today (on their page) and
                said that this scammer (Horoit) did create the page. But, they say that he is gone now, and that they didn't want to "lose the page"
                since a lot of good people were there who did support Israel.

                My instinct tells me that this is true - but I don't have any proof of it, unless someone who knows some (or "any") of the admins
                there - can tell us that this is true or else one of the admins can join in here and tell us here.

                I am "conditionally" going to GO ON THE BASIS of "Hatikvah's statements" today - that this scammer HAS BEEN KICKED OFF THE PAGE ...
                and that he no longer has any control over the page and is not associated with that Facebook page any longer. I say "conditionally" -
                just in case someone (later on) does come up with any PROOF that this is not true and that he is still in control of the page.

                If you (Alina) can help me with that and get one of the admins to CONFIRM IT here ... that would go a long ways to helping us. I
                f you have a trustworthy admin that you know and that you can vouch for - and then have them post here that it is true
                 that he has been kicked off the page ... we'll consider "that part of the problem" - a settled issue.

                As far as the rest of it, and the scammer, and what he has done - yes ... all that other stuff needs to be exposed and
                he needs to be dealt with.
                19 hours ago · 

              • Alina Polyak I will try to clarify with Hatikvah admins and get back to you ASAP
                19 hours ago ·  ·  1

              • Alina Polyak please also note 
                http://www.facebook.com/pages/Everything-About-The-History-Of-The-Palestinians/348121555216691

                Everything About The History Of The Palestinians

                Hatikvah's first book is a fact! There's no other book like this one. Months of ...See More
                Page: 94 like this


                19 hours ago ·  · 

              • Alina Polyak I just contacted Igor Kogut and have information that apparently all Hatikvah admins were removed by Miriam young.

                 But since the owner of the page is officially Alain Horoit, a complaint was filed and according to Igor ownership will be restored.
                 He told me there were about 20 admins on Hatikvah all or most of whom were removed
                19 hours ago · 


              • Geert Wilders Sidebar Well ... if I understand that right - it appears that you're saying that Alain Horoit will be restored to the page ... and thus it will be back in the hands of the scammer, soon.

                If that's the case, then we won't have anything to do with the page - when that happens, because we're not going to support a page
                 who has that kind of scammer and con-artist on it.

                I would appreciate knowing - "if" and "when" that happens.
                14 hours ago ·  ·  1


              • Geert Wilders Sidebar I've got a question ... Alina ...

                Is this the "Miriam Young" that you're talking about? And is this where I would get a hold of her?

                http://www.facebook.com/TheYoungMiriam

                Miriam Young

                We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools. I believ...See More
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                14 hours ago ·  ·  1

              • Alina Polyak yes, correct, this is her. Regarding the question of the page going back to its creator -
                 I do not know what the facebook policy is, but hope that Miriam can answer this question!
                14 hours ago · 

              • Alina Polyak ‎Boris Rozhik , Hatikvah admin said he was removed from the page without his knowledge please contact him as well
                13 hours ago · 



              • Steven Zurel Can't believe it. As a Jew I hope his original intentions were true. Geert, thanks 4 taking this issue up. Alina,
                 thanks for bringing it to light.
                8 hours ago ·  ·  3

        • Geert Wilders IFA Friends
          GWIFA: Janice Wood ALERTS US to a SCAM from "Hativah" ... the Facebook page that was selling a book about the
          "history of the Palestinians". They took her $18 and shipped her all blank pages in the book!

          Hey! ... can we do that too?!

          NOTE: They've been HEAVILY PROMOTING this book and never alerted anyone to the SCAM they were perpetrating.
           Who would have thought that Jews would do that to someone!

          Quote from Janice Wood ...
          Hey Hatikvah!!!
          Thanks for taking my money for a blank book....that's great. After I paid my bills this month, all I could think about was the book
           I had been waiting to order regarding "exposing all Palestinian myths".

          Apparently whoever came up with the idea has money to burn....unfortunately, I don't.

          I read your posts from yesterday and today about the book. Wish you would have been straight up about it from the beginning.
          Now I'm out 18 bucks and the shipping to send it back. I've been loyal to this group for a long time.
          Never had any reason to believe I was getting duped.

          Janice Wood


           ·  ·  · Yesterday at 4:51pm · 

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            • Jay Renaud Yet, a book called 'History of the Palestinians' filled with blank pages, with each empty page detailing a historical lie,
               might be seen by some as strangely truthful. A rip off, but not without irony.
              17 hours ago · 

            • Geert Wilders IFA Friends 
              The "irony" and what we don't like (and call a "con-artist" and "scammer") - who is the publisher of the so-called "book" - is just as
              bad as the Palestinians that he is criticizing!


              Well - now that we think about it - we can't say he's "c...See More
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